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	<title>Comments on: Stop trying to figure out how to get money from people!</title>
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		<title>By: Home Business Answered &#187; AWESOME Photos From The Web 2.0 Venture Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Business Answered &#187; AWESOME Photos From The Web 2.0 Venture Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yelp.com has created something of real value (a community of users, a large database of places and rewiews, etc). You can access the mobile version of their website on the iPhone, and I can only assume they are looking at coming out with their own iPhone app. So they are in control - they are the one with the real value which is the community and userbase. I can&#8217;t see Moximity.com having any success with this just because they got an iPhone app out first. They are totally dependent on Yelp.com. This is a classic case of focusing too much on making money instead of focusing on how to create something of real value. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yelp.com has created something of real value (a community of users, a large database of places and rewiews, etc). You can access the mobile version of their website on the iPhone, and I can only assume they are looking at coming out with their own iPhone app. So they are in control &#8211; they are the one with the real value which is the community and userbase. I can&#8217;t see Moximity.com having any success with this just because they got an iPhone app out first. They are totally dependent on Yelp.com. This is a classic case of focusing too much on making money instead of focusing on how to create something of real value. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AWESOME Photos From The Web 2.0 Venture Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>AWESOME Photos From The Web 2.0 Venture Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yelp.com has created something of real value (a community of users, a large database of places and rewiews, etc). You can access the mobile version of their website on the iPhone, and I can only assume they are looking at coming out with their own iPhone app. So they are in control - they are the one with the real value which is the community and userbase. I can&#8217;t see Moximity.com having any success with this just because they got an iPhone app out first. They are totally dependent on Yelp.com. This is a classic case of focusing too much on making money instead of focusing on how to create something of real value. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yelp.com has created something of real value (a community of users, a large database of places and rewiews, etc). You can access the mobile version of their website on the iPhone, and I can only assume they are looking at coming out with their own iPhone app. So they are in control &#8211; they are the one with the real value which is the community and userbase. I can&#8217;t see Moximity.com having any success with this just because they got an iPhone app out first. They are totally dependent on Yelp.com. This is a classic case of focusing too much on making money instead of focusing on how to create something of real value. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to know, thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem on the comments, comment away! Regarding finding value, I find Google to be quite good.  Mostly because their algorithm does take into account how many other people are linking to you (which is a vote for you).  They also take into account things like the # of rss subscribers I have here and things like that which give good indications of value.  SEO can&#039;t fake those.

But you&#039;re right that it&#039;s difficult to find real value in some other areas.  You have to &quot;poke around&quot; forums, etc like you said.  I think there will be some better solutions for that coming out next year which I&#039;ll certainly post about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem on the comments, comment away! Regarding finding value, I find Google to be quite good.  Mostly because their algorithm does take into account how many other people are linking to you (which is a vote for you).  They also take into account things like the # of rss subscribers I have here and things like that which give good indications of value.  SEO can&#8217;t fake those.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s difficult to find real value in some other areas.  You have to &#8220;poke around&#8221; forums, etc like you said.  I think there will be some better solutions for that coming out next year which I&#8217;ll certainly post about.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought about working there after college and they flew me there for an interview.  I learned a lot even though I didn&#039;t get the offer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about working there after college and they flew me there for an interview.  I learned a lot even though I didn&#8217;t get the offer!</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW,

I found your blog from a comment you made on Tim Ferriss&#039;s blog...I think.</description>
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<p>I found your blog from a comment you made on Tim Ferriss&#8217;s blog&#8230;I think.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finding Value

Sorry for commenting so much, but you seem to have an uncannily clear perspective on a lot of things I&#039;ve muddled over in the past.

Here&#039;s another one I&#039;d like to know your views on:

Finding Value.  You spoke of creating value, but how do we FIND value? And conversely, helping others FIND your value? People are so good at search engine optimization these days, I can&#039;t just Google &quot;really good blog about becoming financially free&quot; and actually get something that fits that description.

What you DO get is 733,000 results.

Google is great when you know exactly what you&#039;re looking for.

But when you&#039;re looking for &quot;value&quot;, you can&#039;t just google &quot;value&quot;.

Do you have a technique you use to find &quot;value&quot; blogs and products?  So far, I&#039;ve used the &quot;poke around&quot; method.

I do have one theory that if a blogger recommends a hero blogger, and then THAT blogger recommends another hero blogger, you&#039;ve found a value blog.  I&#039;ll call it the &quot;3-degrees to value&quot; theory.

Seth Godin was on to something with his &quot;lens&quot; theory, but I&#039;ve yet to see &quot;value&quot; from it.</description>
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<p>Sorry for commenting so much, but you seem to have an uncannily clear perspective on a lot of things I&#8217;ve muddled over in the past.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one I&#8217;d like to know your views on:</p>
<p>Finding Value.  You spoke of creating value, but how do we FIND value? And conversely, helping others FIND your value? People are so good at search engine optimization these days, I can&#8217;t just Google &#8220;really good blog about becoming financially free&#8221; and actually get something that fits that description.</p>
<p>What you DO get is 733,000 results.</p>
<p>Google is great when you know exactly what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>But when you&#8217;re looking for &#8220;value&#8221;, you can&#8217;t just google &#8220;value&#8221;.</p>
<p>Do you have a technique you use to find &#8220;value&#8221; blogs and products?  So far, I&#8217;ve used the &#8220;poke around&#8221; method.</p>
<p>I do have one theory that if a blogger recommends a hero blogger, and then THAT blogger recommends another hero blogger, you&#8217;ve found a value blog.  I&#8217;ll call it the &#8220;3-degrees to value&#8221; theory.</p>
<p>Seth Godin was on to something with his &#8220;lens&#8221; theory, but I&#8217;ve yet to see &#8220;value&#8221; from it.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested in hearing more about your visit to Google.  Why did you go?  How did you get in?  What else did you see and learn from the experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing more about your visit to Google.  Why did you go?  How did you get in?  What else did you see and learn from the experience?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, the get rich quick ideas never seem to work out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the get rich quick ideas never seem to work out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Creer un site</title>
		<link>http://www.startbreakingfree.com/486/stop-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-get-money-from-people/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Creer un site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sentences are also available in french from my experience :-)

People still see the web as a lazy eldorado with little required skills to make bug money... it is not... :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sentences are also available in french from my experience :-)</p>
<p>People still see the web as a lazy eldorado with little required skills to make bug money&#8230; it is not&#8230; :-D</p>
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