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		<title>By: Big Annoucement Coming Up Later This Week!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Annoucement Coming Up Later This Week!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be fair I did the programming myself which I know isn&#8217;t an option for everyone, but there are alternatives to that if you&#8217;re interested). This project will be even better by those measures: I&#8217;ll [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be fair I did the programming myself which I know isn&#8217;t an option for everyone, but there are alternatives to that if you&#8217;re interested). This project will be even better by those measures: I&#8217;ll [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi brian,
My name is Vinnie. I would like to get help from someone regarding building a website. Going through the blog I realized there are loads of people who would like the same. I also came to know that everyone(or most) of them think that they have a great idea and their idea would be the next best thing and rake in millions for them. Yes, I am one of them who think this idea of mine is going to work. But I really dunno the a,b,c of building or getting a website built. So I am writing to ask you what is the procedure you would advise me to follow and how much will I have to spend on an average if I get thy done in Australia and how much in India?
Thanks mate
Vinnie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi brian,<br />
My name is Vinnie. I would like to get help from someone regarding building a website. Going through the blog I realized there are loads of people who would like the same. I also came to know that everyone(or most) of them think that they have a great idea and their idea would be the next best thing and rake in millions for them. Yes, I am one of them who think this idea of mine is going to work. But I really dunno the a,b,c of building or getting a website built. So I am writing to ask you what is the procedure you would advise me to follow and how much will I have to spend on an average if I get thy done in Australia and how much in India?<br />
Thanks mate<br />
Vinnie.</p>
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		<title>By: Home Business Answered &#187; How To Get A Great Design For Your Next Website</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home Business Answered &#187; How To Get A Great Design For Your Next Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days ago I wrote about how you can get a business website built for cheap or free. Several people (correctly) pointed out that you often get what you pay for in these type of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few days ago I wrote about how you can get a business website built for cheap or free. Several people (correctly) pointed out that you often get what you pay for in these type of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How To Get A Great Design For Your Next Website</title>
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		<dc:creator>How To Get A Great Design For Your Next Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days ago I wrote about how you can get a business website built for cheap or free. Several people (correctly) pointed out that you often get what you pay for in these type of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed...if you have an actual web business I probably wouldn&#039;t participate in these equity sharing deals either.  Young, hungry college student programmers are sometimes more open to it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8230;if you have an actual web business I probably wouldn&#8217;t participate in these equity sharing deals either.  Young, hungry college student programmers are sometimes more open to it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep...Matt, I wouldn&#039;t worry about it and I&#039;ve actually never seen this be an issue.  The idea is not whats valuable...it&#039;s how well you implement it, market it, etc.

At the same time Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc were created, probably 100 other people had the same idea but weren&#039;t able to pull it off as effectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230;Matt, I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it and I&#8217;ve actually never seen this be an issue.  The idea is not whats valuable&#8230;it&#8217;s how well you implement it, market it, etc.</p>
<p>At the same time Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc were created, probably 100 other people had the same idea but weren&#8217;t able to pull it off as effectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point John...I&#039;d certainly prefer to have a professionally designed website as well.  Much less hassle.  However, for people who don&#039;t have this option financially, they can at least know there is an alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point John&#8230;I&#8217;d certainly prefer to have a professionally designed website as well.  Much less hassle.  However, for people who don&#8217;t have this option financially, they can at least know there is an alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, thats a good sign!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, thats a good sign!</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaurav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Philip!

During our initial years we got a lot of these type of equity sharing requests, and we discounted prices for a few of them. The outcome was always bad. Now we politely turn these down and let prospects know that we are focused on our own business.

I heard this somewhere and its hard to not believe in it - How can someone ask us to invest our time and money paying my team to build on an idea that the client themselves don&#039;t want to invest in.

In my humble opinion, an idea is only an idea until its profitable, then it becomes a business.

I wouldn&#039;t half ass my concept by paying someone $500 to put it together. Do it right and find the right team with experience in building profitable businesses, not simply websites.

Thanks!
Gaurav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Philip!</p>
<p>During our initial years we got a lot of these type of equity sharing requests, and we discounted prices for a few of them. The outcome was always bad. Now we politely turn these down and let prospects know that we are focused on our own business.</p>
<p>I heard this somewhere and its hard to not believe in it &#8211; How can someone ask us to invest our time and money paying my team to build on an idea that the client themselves don&#8217;t want to invest in.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, an idea is only an idea until its profitable, then it becomes a business.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t half ass my concept by paying someone $500 to put it together. Do it right and find the right team with experience in building profitable businesses, not simply websites.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Gaurav</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a web programmer, I have to say, the majority of &quot;work for free for now and I&#039;ll pay you in an equity deal&quot; offers are not tempting in the slightest.

The big reason most of these are not tempting to me is that they are simply lame ideas, or &quot;me too&quot; ideas. No, I do not want to program the &quot;facebook of realestate brokers&quot; or something... Realestate brokers already have 50 sites for this, including facebook. Here are the other big reasons, mostly having to do with how you ask.

First, there are 3 options, Fast, Good, and Cheap, and you get to pick 2. Usually &quot;work for free&quot; falls under the category of &quot;cheap&quot; and usually I don&#039;t like to sacrifice &quot;good&quot; - I have a reputation to uphold - so I will not give these kinds of projects priority. However, usually the owners want it yesterday and feel like their promise of money is as good as a check I can cash, and they are entitled to be very demanding. Don&#039;t do this - it will upset your programmer.

Second of all, many of these offers come with no documentation or copy of the business plan, but do come with an NDA attached. Some also request a proposal. Why should I propose work and estimate it&#039;s value when you&#039;re not offering me money or a copy of your plan of when you are going to make money, let alone when I get paid. A request that comes in and says, &quot;we can pay you after we get paid, and that&#039;s going to happen by this date...&quot; is a lot more attractive.

Third, explain to me upfront how much of the company you want me to own, and if it changes, how and when? After a certain number of hours?

Finally, there&#039;s never a fall back position, i.e. if we&#039;re not profitable after a year, we&#039;ll give you a small compensation for your time - say 25% of the standard rate, and buy you out. That way I&#039;m free and clear and I didn&#039;t throw work and time into something that failed.

I&#039;m not cynical and jaded - maybe I sound that way - but I do see a lot of offers for this. I speak as a person who has rejected a lot of equity deals, and is currently involved in a very nice one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a web programmer, I have to say, the majority of &#8220;work for free for now and I&#8217;ll pay you in an equity deal&#8221; offers are not tempting in the slightest.</p>
<p>The big reason most of these are not tempting to me is that they are simply lame ideas, or &#8220;me too&#8221; ideas. No, I do not want to program the &#8220;facebook of realestate brokers&#8221; or something&#8230; Realestate brokers already have 50 sites for this, including facebook. Here are the other big reasons, mostly having to do with how you ask.</p>
<p>First, there are 3 options, Fast, Good, and Cheap, and you get to pick 2. Usually &#8220;work for free&#8221; falls under the category of &#8220;cheap&#8221; and usually I don&#8217;t like to sacrifice &#8220;good&#8221; &#8211; I have a reputation to uphold &#8211; so I will not give these kinds of projects priority. However, usually the owners want it yesterday and feel like their promise of money is as good as a check I can cash, and they are entitled to be very demanding. Don&#8217;t do this &#8211; it will upset your programmer.</p>
<p>Second of all, many of these offers come with no documentation or copy of the business plan, but do come with an NDA attached. Some also request a proposal. Why should I propose work and estimate it&#8217;s value when you&#8217;re not offering me money or a copy of your plan of when you are going to make money, let alone when I get paid. A request that comes in and says, &#8220;we can pay you after we get paid, and that&#8217;s going to happen by this date&#8230;&#8221; is a lot more attractive.</p>
<p>Third, explain to me upfront how much of the company you want me to own, and if it changes, how and when? After a certain number of hours?</p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s never a fall back position, i.e. if we&#8217;re not profitable after a year, we&#8217;ll give you a small compensation for your time &#8211; say 25% of the standard rate, and buy you out. That way I&#8217;m free and clear and I didn&#8217;t throw work and time into something that failed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not cynical and jaded &#8211; maybe I sound that way &#8211; but I do see a lot of offers for this. I speak as a person who has rejected a lot of equity deals, and is currently involved in a very nice one.</p>
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